September 20th, 2006

  • beepea

Living around food times

Do any of you go to bed early so you can reduce time time you spend awake "not eating" (like going to bed early on Christmas eve to make Christmas come sooner)?

Did you find this happened more / less during periods of your ED being strong or recovery, and did it lessen up as you recovered / gained weight / gradually became "bored" of food?

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The number of obese children is increasing as the years go by.  As a result, many schools have banned junk foods in schools (pop, soda, chips, candy etc.). 

Do you think this is a good idea?  Why or why not? 

I have an opinion, but I don't want to bias the comments.  The one side argues that starting children on a healthy diet young will help them make better health food choices.  The other side says that doing this will increase the kids desire to binge, or be "sneaky" around food.

Post links to support your comment, if possible.  I'm thinking of doing this for a value speech for a communications course.

  • beepea

Any new food habits?

Thanks to everyone to replied to my question about EDs and their sleep! It was really interesting to read all of the comments.

Now for my next set of questions (i'll do separate posts for ease of commenting!)

1) I have DEFFO asked this before, but couldn't find it when I searched (and responses will probably be different this time around anyway): it is in a very similar vein to a recent post about strange ED habits but I wanted to ask a more specific question. Do you choose foods which are "complicated" to eat or will take a long time to eat? What are they? If you only eat part of a food for which you know the calorifi value, do you count the calories or estimate? For example- I've recently taken to buying milk chocolate covered raisins, but only because I want the chocolate off of them. To encorperate the calories into my daily plan, I guess that the chocolate counts for about 50% of the total calories..
  • beepea

Worth it?

Second question!

2) I have been in recovery for the past 18 months. Only recently, without school pressures, I have really put all my effort into getting better- and i'm gaining weight. I looked back on the past year and realised that my weight has only changed by about 5lbs in total (by going up and down and up and down). I really don't think it was "worth it"

If i'd just not restricted myself and tried to focus my energy on activities other than my ED, chances are i'd be exactly the same weight now- a year on- but a lot happier, and with a lot more going for me.

Does anyone else feel like this? My recovery feels very much like me "letting go" of my ED.. the only thing i'm finding hard is dealing with the anxiety of weight gain, but after looking back over the past 12 months, I realised I just slowed down my metabolism and gave myself pretty un-necessary and "illogical" greif (e.g. Not eating any Christmas cake at Chritmas for fear that it would make me gain weight / binge.. it ruined my Christmas).

I mean- to fully recover, you're really going to have to have a healthy relationship with food which will probably mean being at a "normal" weight (and having periods) anyway... so maintaining an unnaturally low body weight is just putting off the inevitable?!?

Does anyone else have any comments on this?
I don't know about any of you, but hindsight is the best recovery motivation I have at the moment...

Looking forward to hearing replies :)
abbey pink

Paris Match

Hi everyone,

For anyone in France, just thought I'd let you know (if you haven't already seen it) that there is an article in Paris Match (31 August - 6 September; Katie Holmes & Tom Cruise are on the cover) titled L'ANOREXIE: au bout des doigts. It goes from pp 23-26, & talks about the notion of 'pro-ana' websites on the internet, as well as mia, la petite soeur. There are examples of the digitally altered photographs used as 'thinspiration', & an interview with child psychiatrist Marcel Rufo about the effect of such websites. There are three histories (with photographs) of girls who are suffering from Anorexia Nervosa, & it outlines what precipitated the onset of their illness.

Its 7am here in Sydney & I'm still waking up, so I'm not going to bother translating the article right now. But maybe if people are interested I'll do it later. Or, is there any one else who has the issue (I know it's an old one, but my subscription ended up in my neighbour's mailbox - oops!) who would really love to do it for me?

Katie xx

(accidentally posted to my personal journal this morning, instead of ed_ucate. Sorry for those on my friends list & also a member of ed_ucate who get this twice!
  • beepea


Question idea spiked by a comment I just made..

I know there have been questions regarding binge-foods, but what about vegetables? If I feel like i'm going to overeat, I make sure it's only on vegetables..

is this a good thing in recovery? What do "normal" people overeat on? Should someone really be overeating if they're eating "normally"?

I know it's totally impossible to gain weight by binging on vegetables (I'm expecting a lot of "if you consume more calories than you burn..." replied here, but from a scientific point of view, I don't think anyone could consume all-you-can-eat-only-vegetables [excluding starchy] in one day to gain weight- i'm a walking example)

So where do you see yourself with fruits and vegetables?
What do you think (especially people in the UK- because of government advertising) of the 5-a-day thing? (I personally envy people who can "allow" themselves 5 pieces of fruit a day!)

Bleh. A random question but I hope it gets some replies!
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This relates to more obessive-type ED sufferers, I suppose; as I know there are many out there that don't give a fuck WHAT they eat, and rather just the minimum calories possible.

However, if you are the person that does 'plan' out what they'll have (whether this is 2000 or 200 calories), and for some reason you couldn't have the certain thing (say you spontaneously 'had' to go out for coffee; hence you missed whatever it was at a time you have 'set' to have the item), how does it make it feel? Are you overjoyed that you missed the calories, care that you didn't get the (insert nutrient here) from (insert item here)?

For me, I like to have things 'on time.' I spend the majority of my time doing 'homework' which is really calorie counting, despite being in 'recovery' and eating a more than normal amount; I'll be annoyed if I 'have to' do something (which would delay an item by an hour) or if I've used calories for something I couldn't avoid (alcohol at parties) that I didn't really want.

Feelings on this?
[mk] fight off the lethargy.

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This is the second post in this community I've made in less than a week, and they've both been about television. I swear, I'm not a couch potato, but I would willingly become one if every show were as good as America's Next Top Model.

On tonight's premiere episode, though, the show did something it never has before. The idea behind the photo shoot was "model stereotypes," and two contestants, a pair of twins, played disordered models. One was supposed to be bulimic, and the other anorexic. Both girls were incredibly thin and kind of pale and sickly looking, which was probably why they were picked.

As soon as I heard "model stereotypes," I knew there would be EDs involved. I was worried that they would be tasteless photos, that the contestants would make fun of disorders, that any number of terrible, stereotype-enforcing things would happen. (All I could think about was that ridiculous Pink video, actually.) But I was actually impressed by how the topic was handled. No one overtly said much about it, in either direction. I figured Tyra would ramble on about the horror of eating disorders (I love a good Tyra rant), or one of the judges would make some terrible joke, but no one really mentioned it. It was treated as just another stereotype, really.

And the photos were, in my opinion, amazing. Both models (who are so awkward in real life but seem amazing in front of a camera) looked like they knew what they were talking about. I don't know if either of them had struggled with disorders, but they both nailed it. The one playing anorexic had a measuring tape around her waist, and she was staring away from it, looking terrified. She legitimately looked like someone trapped by her weight and her body-- the way we all feel, all the time. I was expecting the "bulimic" model to be tastelessly splayed in front of a toilet, but instead, she was sitting on one. Her hands were covered in what looked like cake, and one of her hands was just sort of floating near her mouth, like she was about to purge or already had. She looked right at the camera, like she had been caught, and she looked so ashamed-- of eating, and of purging.

It's possible that I'm overidentifiyng with the models, I guess, and projecting my own emotions onto them. But I don't think I was, at least not too much. I just think they were amazing photographs. I wish I could find them somewhere, but they're not online yet.

Of course, give it time, and I'm sure the pictures will make into countless "thinspiration" icons. Which is sort of sad-- I liked the photos because they didn't glorify eating disorders. But I guess we all see things differently because of our disorders, and none of us are immune to that.

Anyway. This was much longer than I intended it be. Thoughts?

ETA@6:52AM: The links are now behind the cut. Warning: They're really triggering, feauturing models portraying anorexia and bulimia in kind of a graphic way. Collapse )
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